Anonymous asked:
brevoortformspring answered:
Spider-Man is about youth, and it’s difficult for a character to be about youth when he has a child of his own. That’s a fundamental difference from Sue, Wolverine, Luke and whomever else.
BWA HA HA!
Oh, this canard never gets old.
It’s like no one at Marvel can realize Peter graduated high school in the mid 1960s, and left university studies in the early 1980s. And he now has a frickin’ Ph.d he didn’t earn, & runs his own company he didn’t build! He hasn’t been a “youth” in over thirty years.
But sure, Spider-Man about youth. Not how to handle the responsibility that comes with great power, oh noes.
I just hope they serve this canard a l'orange in the Marvel cafeteria. It must be getting really difficult, this constant regurgitation. Hopefully the sauce makes the burning taste better going back up.
And I’m also hoping this being couched as “Spider-Man” and not as Peter Parker may mean it’s being applied to Miles only….as Miles is the only Spider-Man who can be called “young.”
Still, it’s a canard well past its prime.
Brevoort had a prime?
Why is it important that Spider-Man be about “youth”? It’s a vague, nebulous idea that has no explanation. What themes are inherent to the concept of “youth”? How do they apply to Spider-Man? What is there to this core concept beyond “Peter cannot be a certain age”? It’s not a theme, it’s a limitation. While it could certainly support a theme, it is not a theme itself.
More under the cut.
[[MORE]]By the way, agoodstoryshould? From what I understand of how the people at Marvel have been explaining things, those university studies are most likely supposed to be considered a part of his youth, and I wouldn’t be surprised if we eventually get told that the Ph.D and company either don’t count, or are exceptions because Slott is super duper important. Probably something like how they do support the theme of youth, because while Otto was allowed them because he’s older, Peter’s “youth” shows in his incompetence in handling a company and live up to the doctorate that was handed to him on a silver platter.
If anything, that’s what Marvel associates with “youth”: incompetence. Uncle Ben’s origin story is all about Peter’s failure to stop a criminal resulting in the loss of an innocent life. That he takes this failure as an example to prevent similar instances from happening again is treated like an afterthought by most writers, who think that failure is necessary for Peter. Yes, I understand that stories rely on conflict, but with Spider-Man, that’s equated with a necessity for him to fail. It’s not that he just can’t win yet, it’s that he has to fail again and again to make it seem like his victories will be all the more sweet.
But no, Marvel doesn’t want a genuine hero. They want a bumbling idiot who needs his “Parker luck” to not be constantly screwing him over, all because he refuses to grow up, and even then, that’s because of lazy writing that serves no purpose but to reassure us that Peter being a static character is the way to go.
Spider-Man is about responsibility, but Brevoort and the people he associates himself with are far more content to just tell the readers that it’d be easier to relate to a character who sits around doing nothing because they won’t amount to anything without divine intervention.
There is no reason for why Peter cannot have a child. It’s just that people see Mayday as a representation of Peter and Mary Jane’s relationship being successful, and because they resent Mary Jane, they place the burden on Mayday for “ruining” an aspect of Spider-Man, then so to avoid looking so petty and sexist, they generalize it so that any child is the problem.
Tom Brevoort, if there’s anyone around here who needs to grow up, it’s you. Just because you can’t doesn’t mean you can keep a character down with you as well.
He’s about youth because he was a teenager in Ditko’s run…that really is the beginning middle and end of it.
But then Brevoort and others point out how his villains were all adults, ignoring how logically Russian spies, businessmen, people who looked like vultures and nuclear scientists weren’t going to be anywhere near Peter’s contemporaries and if they were the Comics Code would’ve probably stepped in when it came to teenagers being beaten up and going to jail.
Also if Spider-Man is young it means he can be a loser and be forgiven for it, even though Stan said in issue #12 he’s not a loser.
So if those university studies don’t count how about when he left college in order to support his injured girlfriend in the Roger Stern run? You know arguably the most acclaimed run on Spider-Man ever which Brand New Day was supposed to emulate and pay lip service to?
Spider-Man being in high school is about youth…but so is being in college (where he sought to propose to Gwen)…and so is leaving college…
But the real reason Spider-Man is about youth is because Brevoort and other guys working at Marvel need to work through their mid-life crisis somehow.
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Well duh!!! Haven’t you heard his motto, “with great power must also come great YOUTH!!!!” It’s ok. You won’t make that dumb mistake again while I’m here to protect you.😉
I have to reblog this to SAVE THE LIVES OF SPIDEY FANS ALL OVER! I cannot allow another soul to hold that horrid misconception. I must seek out those who feel Peter is a hero based around responsibility and guide them to YOUTH!!!! With great power must also come great responsibility. Huh? That has a nice ring to it. Someone should use that phrase…
Of course, how did I not see it before!
Peter Parker has learned from the great masters Might Gai and Rock Lee, and became one with the Springtime of Youth.
BTW ‘Lord Crotch’, yeah Spider-Man has only been a man child SINCE they started writing him that way, i.e. since One More Day (or even before). He was going to have kids in the Clone Saga. No not everyone does have kids but Spider-Man is most definitely one of the people who would want them.
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I don’t know why someone thinks using the name “Lord Crotch” in any way, shape or form would make anyone want to consider their opinion.
